The thing is they don’t make Spike angry. Now supporting MTG Arena decks!. Interviewing Paul from PDH committee - the Pauper Commander format, Omnath remains in 50% of Standard Challenge's TOP 32 decklists, Interviewing Brad from Pauper Guild: the Pauper Singleton format. I don’t see that cat combo is an essential part of the format and randomly losing to it feels bad. [–]TrishulaMTG 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). 14. [–]Instant-Speed-Scoop 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago (1 child). PNR 3 / 3 . [–]kami_inu 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Would be very surprised if the deck didn't lose something today after this weekend. It acts as a finisher and removal which green lacks, heavily. GB Midrange - 1 copy (3%) White Winnie - 1 copy (3%) I literally don’t get people who have it out for T3feri or Oko. In your post you must also include: A description of your deck/What it intends to do, Specific questions to stimulate conversation. [–]tallandgodless 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (9 children). 2. They're clearly not Johnny cards, they make Timmy and Spike angry, Vorthos probably doesn't care if they're tournament legal, so who are these cards for exactly? Weekly Metagame - Is Magic Healthy Again ? White Heliod: Phill_Hellmuth. Ballista fits in that role, albiet at a much more fair cost. Currently only enemy colours have them. They are feel bad cards that make timmys/spikes angry but they are probably fine. This deck prays on that type of thought, while still keeping to the 'turning creatures sideways' they may just be tokens! Also tef3ri just bounces it away, [–]Tehdougler 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). 4 - Posts & comments should be constructive. *TOP 5 DECKLISTS* Boros … 12. the free 4 mana spell that, with a perfect draw, let's me cast ulamog on turn 3. [card](Oko, Thief of Crowns) (35 copies) ... It’s a really fun deck, it’s not my main Pioneer deck right now but it’s a great change of pace. 4Merfolk Trickster4Siren Stormtamer. 2º place - UR Phoenix At 2 mana ballista is draft chaff and at 8 mana he's a bad glorybringer. [–]Bananadan6 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). If it was brought up I hope they guy/gal who did so got some side-eye from the people who know better. The deck is a 'control' deck without the counters. Every combo deck will play him just to shut down removal / counterspells. [–]Tehdougler 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). If you take a way t3feri, you will still die to the combo as there are other ways of protecting it: in the case of copy cat most of them run 3-4 veil. If this was hearthstone, it would get nerfed from 5 to 4 and probably be fine most of the time. 2 Agonizing Remorse 1 Bloodchief's Thirst 2 Heartless Act 1 Liliana, Waker of the Dead 3 Necromentia 2 Rankle, Master of Pranks 2 Soul Shatter 2 Soul-Guide Lantern AlfredoTorres (3rd Place) Pioneer Challenge #12223586 on 11/01/2020 Decklist Stats Sample Hand [card](Teferi, Time Raveler) (32 copies) Provides digging power, but also providing a threat to act as a 'fog' or 'soak up damage' versus a cantrip, Removal for planeswalkers is limited, and creatures must fight through before your walkers take over, Life total must be recognized as a resource, Combo can just get there against the deck, Go wide strategies may overwhelm the deck (Supreme verdict is here as a 4 of, but if you don't draw it...), 1-1 answering is alright, but you will run out of gas if not careful, Stronger "Counter Control" decks or heavier "Tempo Decks" can give your walkers an issue - Think Brazen Borrower, Spell Queller, and decks of this nature, Match 9: Mono Green Devotion (TacoFarmer - 1st Placer Person). Like you said ballista needs hoops, but if a card comes along that pops scales to be really powerful ballista could be a catalyst as to why that deck is really powerful (since it's kind of a swiss army knife) and get a ban. 21. But I think that even that's premature as the format may adapt to better deal with the green ramp deck. 10. Hello Everyone! 6. PNR 1 / 1 . Here's hoping leyline of abundance is the first to go. © 2018 by Cards Realm. All bets aside the Planeswalker Super Friend package is seriously powerful, and we noted if you can get [[Teferi, Time Raveler]] into a [[Supreme Verdict]] at instant speed, and follow with [[Elspeth, Sun's Champion]] you're in for a good time! Because it was the first Challenger, many came up with the decks they liked best on Standard or believed to be the best deck. This week the guys discuss the newly crowned monarch on the Pioneer throne before heading into the OR for a little deck doctoring on listener submitted deck lists. How long before/after this was posted were many of these decks made invalid? Thank you tho. Saheeli was dominant in the field, but appeared poorly in the Top 8. I want to use Siege Rhinos again! Saheeli Cat - 9 copies (27%) gottelicious (1st Place) Pioneer Challenge #12233113 on 11/28/2020 . [–]Saheeli-Rai 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Take away its ability to help that kind of play and you're left with basically a singular free 2 mana spell and 3 normal 3 mana spells. Banning Leyline of Abundance is the answer. [–]IProto 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). Crew the 🛳 Sail the ⛵️ at your opponent [card](Elvish Mystic) (32 copies) Yeah very true. Mono-green Stompy - 2 copies (3%) This is not the place to post low-effort content, pics of your foiled out deck, sweet booster pack pulls, or general MTG questions/comments. The deck was the big bet in this tournament. Like if post leyline ban of mono green is still putting up great results and you see ballista as a dump, you might look at nykthos or something that allows the absurd amount of mana to get dumped into it. [March 22nd] Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists. I thought before i saw these results Once Upon a Time was likely up first, but it may actually be Nyxthos up first considering the Black list even had them. When posting a deck lists, make a text post linking to a deck building site (Archidekt, Scryfall, MTGGoldfish, TappedOut, etc). [–]fubuvsfitch 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Ertai_87 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]ShortsAreComfy 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child), Cats and leylines, cats and leylines everywhere, [–]GibsonJunkie 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children). Close. StarCityGames.com® is the world's largest Magic the Gathering store, with an inventory that includes an extensive selection of out-of print sealed product and over 20,000,000 individual cards! Decklists. All participating copies went to the Top 8. and join one of thousands of communities. I am truly hopeful that nothing gets banned. Give it time, once the most un-fair decks are either banned out/weakened by bans, we'll see room for the mildly un-fair. No I completely understand it, I've stated in other comments that I believe it or leyline will get the ban hammer in this format. We hope to see you all there! [card](Botanical Sanctum) (40 copies) Spirits. news. MTG DECKS by format Be the best deckbuilder, and beat the metagame with the biggest MtG decks database, even bigger than mtgtop8. Ive seen some people trying [[Gate to the Afterlife]] and [[God-Pharoah's Gift]]. Top 8. Being able to fit into multiple types of decks and being a swiss army knife is powerful, not many cards can do that. Close. Sadly. The stream will be casted by yours truly along with my cohost on The Pioneer Perspective, Alex! 8. Broken? Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Which comes of no surprise considering all the overpowered PWs printed in the last six months. Theres also 4 ways ballista can be used because its dual type (delirium enabler) uses counters (hardened scales), scales infinitely (ramp) and is a pinger (removal). So my problem with this argument is that it seemingly mis-evaluates the problem. MTG DECKS: Magic the Gathering top 8 decks database. Forgot about the core set one, [–]Enral 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). They ended up on Nissa as removal and that in itself is good, but not super dependant. Episode 14: Pioneer Challenge Results and other cards that would be good in Pioneer! Magic players are good people and will eventually stop playing degenerate shit because I know they, like me, want to cast their Siege Rhinos and Torrential Gearhulks! 158 decklists and 7 Pioneer events posted since my last ZNR post. ... Budget Challenge: Orzhov Aristocrats by WurmMaster777. [–]TrishulaMTG 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). It’ll be much better once they reprint the missing fastlands. There have been some [[Rally the Ancestors]] decks floating around that use [[Corpse Celebrant]] and [[Zulaport Cutthroat]] for the kill off [[Cartel Aristocrat]] sacrifices. This weeks Pioneer Challenge decklists (magic.wizards.com), submitted 1 year ago by FastMoreThanTrain, [–]zealousd 59 points60 points61 points 1 year ago (9 children), Players: "I'm glad Wizards is making a new eternal format that won't have Tron in it. Thank you everyone for your patience and understanding as we had some scheduling conflicts due to the Holliday as well as a ton of technical difficulties for this episode. PNR 41 / 18 . 7. [–]Enral 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children). [deck](17429) Dimir Inverter: Phizzle. [–]Ahayzo 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), I just want to play Esper Gift with Stitcher’s Supplier and Merfolk Secretkeeper, [–]NoxTempus 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), GPG probably can't exist in the same meta as Oko, [–]Bananadan6 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (7 children). The deck is not dominating. 41. Spikes hated it when Marvel was a broken deck because whoever gets the first lucky Marvel spin wins the game - there's no outplaying turn 4 Ulamog, and Spikes can't show off the full extent of their skills when piloting such a deck. [–]NumberFifteen15 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). The only reason he is good is the shell that he is currently in is because of it's ability to make so much mana. [deck](17428) That's a sort of caricature model of Spike that doesn't really hold up to any real people I've met. Also there are a lot of powerful spells in this format I agree, but not thinking ballista is up there is absurd. OUaT is absolutely a busted magic card and it is absolutely homogenizing green decks which is a prime reason Wizards has banned cards in the past. It's a powerful card. Rally the Ancestors - (G) (SF) (txt) Challenge Youtube Matches: https://youtu.be/mZIlMkS9s0I (Uploading/Processing as of this Post - Quality will improve once Youtube finishes processing!). [–]CenturionRower 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (12 children), I mean I'm sure its lower on the list but I'm sure it was discussed. 5º place - Saheeli Cat New ideas are awesome and always welcome. [–]57messier 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]Kriznick 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (5 children). Cats did well at first because it's an easy deck to build and everyone knows it's good (it's doing well in modern too right now). Top 8 earned a championship invite token for a tournament in April. * This series is all about the presentation, creation and/or adaptation of unusual or unexplored decks that, nevertheless, works great and provides what all games should provides us with: *fun! a:15:{i:0;O:8:"stdClass":3:{s:4:"type";s:4:"land";s:10:"deck_count";s:2:"20";s:9:"card_meta";O:8:"stdClass":2:{s:5:"title";s:6:"Island";s:22:"field_card_image_front";a:0:{}}}i:1;O:8:"stdClass":3:{s:4:"type";s:4:"land";s:10:"deck_count"; Interestingly 7 of the top 8 in this list were mono colored decks, 4 Green, 2 Red and 1 Black. Decklists. I wish they'd just ban all walkers in Pioneer, now that would make things interesting. 5. The first Mythic Point Challenge has now wrapped up on MTG Arena, a tournament that players who achieved the top 1200 Mythic ranking in the previous seasons were qualified to participate. Bant Company - 1 copy (3%) Decklist Stats Sample Hand. Lots of Mono G showing up, some cats, some nexus, some RDW. *TOP 10 most played cards in Pioneer Challenge* (without counting basic lands) Zulaport Cutthroat - (G) (SF) (txt) I would say that T3feri in particular is a problem card for Spikes since proper spell timing is a big differentiator for skilled players. Any Abzan lists? [–]wdingo 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children). [–]ThisHatRightHere 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Top Pioneer Metagame decks Mono Black. You can't just jam ballista in any deck and have it perform. * Pioneer Delirium by BRG24. There will always be combo decks. Apologies about the delay, but the newest episode of The Pioneer Perspective is now live! Nyx is so dependent on other cards to be good, and all those other cards can have answers- save for walkers. Cartel Aristocrat - (G) (SF) (txt) I feel like mono green has become the Tron of the format. Even the vampire deck is running it (assuming because of nyxthos), [–]CenturionRower 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (14 children). If there's any ban at all, it should be leyline. It needs to go. That's alot of different synergies in 1 card, which means it's going to get used a lot, thankfully it was developed to a balanced rate (3 mana and it could be too powerful and 5 mana not useful) so that it can be fairly used. [–]Technognomey 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]TrishulaMTG 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (22 children). It’s fun, but it feels bad. Since the unbanning of Oath of Nissa, I, like many of you, were sort of wary of the format.It turns out, Oath of Nissa might have added more wrinkles to the format than previously thought. Interesting that no mono blue devotion lists made the cut. [–]tallandgodless -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (7 children). [–]Meecht 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children), [–]MTGCardFetcher 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Immortal Servitude - (G) (SF) (txt) Press J to jump to the feed. The fast draws seem inconsistent, but the inevitability/late game is pretty good. Im not entirely sure a Nyx ban is the answer. i don't think ballista is even close to the top 20 most powerful cards in this format. [–]Maroonwarlock 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), Oh I've been playing it too along with an 8rack port I brewed. Maybe we'll see another swing in deck construction and it'll correct a bit more? Your comment gives me the impression that you don't quite understand exactly why cheap / free card selection spells have historically been problematic in various formats. All Rights Reserved. Stream The Only Two Decks To Play In Standard AND Pioneer by Arena Decklists from desktop or your mobile device. 1 Extinction Event 2 Fatal Push 1 Brazen Borrower 2 Cry of the Carnarium 1 Damping Sphere 2 Enter the God-Eternals 3 Mystical Dispute 1 Nissa, Who Shakes the World 1 Notion Thief 1 Soul Shatter Snusnumrick (2nd Place) Pioneer Challenge #12218059 on 10/18/2020 Decklist … Pl Deck Player Price; 1st R R R: ShowTime_ 79 tix $ 88 - 2nd Sultai Reclamation Sultai Reclamation Sultai Reclamation: Harry13: 325 tix $ 395 - 3rd Niv to Light Niv to Light Niv to Light: Xerk: 472 tix $ 466 - 4th Burn Burn Burn: DioMagoSrl: 93 tix $ 158 - … Do not use this subreddit to sell or trade. I said it needs to be looked at as a valve. If you gave Spike the choice of either a playset of Brainstorm or a playset of Ancestral in their deck, of course they'd go with the Ancestral. I’m playing it. Albiet copter was easier to build around, but it was still versatile and was able to do what ever deck wanted to do as a cheap cost. PNR 9 / 8 . This was our first outting with the deck, which I believe showcases its power, we also discuss in one of the matches (may be cut due to editing) how magic has so many lines at times, finding new ones helps us learn! God Pharohs is cool, but I want a mass reanimation spell or a good reason to cycle shitty creatures. [–]aggr1103 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children). The results of the first official Pioneer championship is here now. Back in Black Midrange by DragonzBane. Pinging small creatures, or being a ramp/infinite mana sink. Sort by: Planeswalker (6) 2 Nahiri, the Harbinger 4 ... Harry13 (2nd Place) bolov0 (3rd Place) mahzinha_linda (4th Place) O_danielakos (5th Place) [–]ShoogleHS 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), They are feel bad cards that make timmys/spikes angry. A showcase challenge is a monthly mtgo tournament that takes the place of the normal challenge except they cost 40 Qualifier Points to enter. [–]heyzeto 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]VideoCook 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Auras Hexproof - 1 copy (3%) Oh and the dumb card printed called nexus of fate. Being good in a powerful shell is not the same as being individually powerful. 2 - Provide ideas with some substance to them. [–]Enral 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child). Interesting to see prior to the B&R if these results will make a difference. ", [–]Nickypoo_Loves_You 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (5 children), [–]RedBlackX 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children), [–]lvlI0cpu 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]CenturionRower 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (8 children). I've been on a Zombies list with a very similar gameplan and an extremely similar sideboard, but Sorin is too hot to be ignored, and so I'm switching tribal teams. [–]AncientFudge1984 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (9 children). This unofficial "decklist dump" is far from complete though, so please let me know of any 4-1 of better decklists you know of and I'll add those to the spreadsheet. You can see all the different decks that get posted from Magic Online here. [card](Llanowar Elves) (34 copies) The decks we must need to watch are UR Phoenix and Mono-U Devotion. [–]FastMoreThanTrain[S] 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (4 children). [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), I’m just worried about oko, he just ruins the artifact combos. Yeah closest thing I've seen so far unfortunately. A lot of times people feel the counters are the necessary element of control, and although we have some in the sideboard Pioneer I believe attempts to drive to what Wizards and many viewers like: Interactive, Turn creatures Sideways, Win through damage. [–]CenturionRower 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Legends of Runeterra and its respective properties are copyright Riot Games. StarCityGames.com® is the world's largest Magic the Gathering store, with an inventory that includes an extensive selection of out-of print sealed product and over 20,000,000 individual cards! Pioneer Challenge #12233117 on 2020-11-29. Im not entirely sure a Nyx ban is the answer. Nissa seems to be shaking pioneer's world right now. Hello I never said it needed banned? SoundCloud The Only Two Decks To Play In Standard ... Pioneer Challenge Results and other cards that would be good in Pioneer! 9. 5. This card was totally fine in standard, and is totally fine in modern where it kills people on turn 4. Like you use it as a metric to see if theres anything broken going on with the format. And it itself is only really useful when you know what you need from it. [deck](17427) [–]hsc92587 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children), Almost like the mana fixing in the format isn’t great or something, [–]AdrianRWalker 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). God damnit dude, seriously? I missed top 32 on breakers. 11. [–]Maroonwarlock 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (3 children). In my experience, Spikes will play anything, but what they like is for the format to be conducive to skill-intensive games of Magic where they can outplay their opponent. That looks amazing. What did we see? 2 Heartless Act 2 Aethersphere Harvester 2 Agonizing Remorse 1 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet 2 Legion's End 1 Necromentia 3 Self-Inflicted Wound 2 Soul-Guide Lantern Fastfake (9th Place) Pioneer Challenge #12233117 on 11/29/2020 Decklist Stats Sample Hand What is so strong about the late game we have? UW control - 1 copy (3%) claudioh (1st Place) Pioneer Challenge #12206264 on 09/13/2020. Boros Feather - 1 copy (3%) It’s fine in 2 colours. Yes, Spike's priority is winning, and they will absolutely play with broken cards in order to achieve that, but I think it's wrong to assume that Spikes automatically like those cards. [–]Ahayzo -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children), If they’re being super aggressive, I don’t expect Teferi to last more than a month, Oko isn’t banworthy though (yet). [–]Yagoua81 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). T3feri literally changes how the fundamental game of magic is to be played. "We board it out" isn't a great justification for not banning a card. Corpse Celebrant - (G) (SF) (txt) 75 Cards. Sultai Midrange also appeared with a good percentage of wins. Blanket/low-effort complaints aren't helpful. Magic: The Gathering and its respective properties are copyright Wizards of the Coast. [Podcast] Crew3 Episode 52 is LIVE! Doesn't quite roll of the tongue does it? UG Okrasis - 3 copies (10%) 6. Rendered by PID 2773 on r2-app-0d1711d03db61de53 at 2020-12-02 13:46:51.765288+00:00 running 31b5616 country code: NL. 1039 decklists and 50 events since ZNR released (29 Prelim, 21 Premier). Azorius Control. 3. You're doing god's work, sir/madam. See you tomorrow with more data from the 5-0 Pioneer MTGO tournaments! Sultai Midrange - 5 copies (17%) Mythic (12) 4Brazen Borrower4Master of Waves4Thassa, God of the Sea. *METAGAME* That UW midrange deck has me shook. 8. 4º place - Mono-u Devotion PNR 1 / 1 . 13. Mono-black vampires - 1 copy (3%) Decklist Stats Sample Hand. Sorin and walking ballista reads kill target creature. No. A card that gets shaved out against removal heavy matchups? Everything in between eventually gets squashed, [–]badgersauce1770 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), I just wanna cast History of Benalia gosh darn it, [–]Stasis20 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (2 children). Probabky not enough, [–]tallandgodless -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (11 children). And for the nissa deck, we do have board wipes. An expensive pinger that can scale inefficiently and fails the vanilla test is not a swiss army knife. 1º place - Sultai Midrange it's a finisher that takes an enormous amount of mana or a lot of hoops to make effective. [1st March] MTGO Pioneer Showcase Challenge Top 32 Decklists. [–]Thereisnocomp2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). It's one of those cards you have to keep your eye on. I love Green, but damn I think something is going to have to be banned. [–]d7h7n 44 points45 points46 points 1 year ago (3 children). We are not here to critique the brew you slapped together without thought. If everyone is just casting their spells on their own turn, that reduces the player's options and lessens Spike's ability to conceal information, leverage bluffs, play reactively, and so on. [–]PocoTheTurtle 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (19 children), 16 walking ballistas in the top 8 decks. Second, I don't know if you're out there in Reddit world, but thank you for continuing to jam this sweet Vampires deck to success every week. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]kami_inu 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). Theres a reason there were a number of copies in the top 8, shit it's the reason copter was banned. * use the following search parameters to narrow your results: The Pioneer Format of magic the gathering. Mono-u Devotion - 1 copy (3%) Today! We received this from a community member, and thought we'd take it into the Challenge (though we were close to just running the UG Nexus deck). I have no idea why everyone is so set on them banning cards. [card](Veil of Summer) (40 copies) Those cards are flexible. God Pharaoh's Gift shenanigans is what I really want to see tbh. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. I.e. [–]skeeler87 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). I commend them for trying to actually make a free spell fair but they missed the mark once again on this one. Sunday, Wizards of the Coast published all the decklists from our [link](https://cardsrealm.com/tourners/official/pioneer/2019-10-27/pioneer-challenge)(first Pioneer Challenge). Posted by 23 days ago [Pioneer] - Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists (March 22nd) Pioneer. 1st - Bant Spirits: lucadaky. Some solid lines of Haunted dead discarding 1-2 amalgam end step is so good, [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (10 children). Don't Be a Corpsejack Menace to Society... by G a t t i s o n. PNR 8 / 6 . 7. [–]d7h7n -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (3 children). [–]CenturionRower 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (10 children). Welcome to MTG decks!.We collect MtG top decks for Standard, Modern, Legacy, Vintage, Pioneer and many other formats. Real flexibility is something like Jitte, JTMS, the swords, tutor cards. I’ll look into lists, but it’s not really my style. But if you polled Spikes on whether they would rather play in a format with either Brainstorm or Ancestral being legal, I bet almost all of them would pick Brainstorm. r/PioneerMTG: The Pioneer Format of Magic: the Gathering. Its dumb once and that's it. The Recycling Plant [Mono-Green Artifact Combo] by C o r r o s i v e _ C a t. PNR 20 / 18 . Weekly Metagame - What's the deck to beat? 3º place - Sultai Midrange [Pioneer] - Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists (March 22nd) Pioneer. [deck](17426) Decklist Stats Sample Hand. Only WotC has access to key data such as play % and win %. Went 6-3 playing Esper Saheeli. I think the Dredgeless deck feels solid but yeah some lines are blowouts and I've luckily dodged most of the combo decks in practice queues, [–]WebCobra 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), I've been playing the GB dredgeless list and it feels really solid. Both of those do really powerful things but the weaker in the vacuum got banned because it was working with other cards to cause an unbalanced series of play. I'm Ariel and this is *All Against Arena. God-Pharoah's Gift - (G) (SF) (txt) 10. Try to do some metagame testing to get a feel for your deck so you can talk about it better. 2. T3feri in play for 1000 turns can’t win the game. I was testing out some non-oko decks against it when it seemed good, but it is going to be a pretty major issue for the deck. The first official decklist dump is coming up on Monday, so this will help everyone planning on participating in the Pioneer Challenge on Sunday or any Paper events at their LGS. Go faster than anyone or go taller than anyone. Thank you all so much! There is a Dredgeless Dredge it's just much more balanced without the dredge mechanic that it's not good enough to compare to decks like Copycat since a dredge style deck wants to ignore it's opponent but it can't here. Be kind! Yes, Ancestral is way more powerful, but Brainstorm lets Spike showcase their skill. Posted by 7 months ago. This is actually probably on the table for discussion in regards to bans towards mono green. Why ban marquee mythics/rates when you can just ban the cat? In need of recommendations for a (mono white) Archangel Avacyn Deck! [–]Wund3rBoi 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Thanks for the cool list. I mean if you make a list of the top 20 best cards/most powerful cards in pioneer ballista makes that list 100% and you have to discuss those cards as potential bans (in a vacuum) then have to look at why its powerful and see if it's because of another card it seems super strong or is it just because its powerful. This sub is for discussion of Magic: The Gathering's Pioneer format. I really wish there was a deck in pioneer that was like living end. [–]ShoogleHS 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children). UR Phoenix - 3 copies (10%) Hey, guys! Really we've only had less than 24 hours to really think about how this deck functions and what it did well versus what it did not. [card](Saheeli Rai) (36 copies) 1. Big Weaklings [Budget Azorius Jank] by C o r r o s i v e _ C a t. PNR 48 / 26 . Not to mention, that while it has late game inevitability, I don't think it matches the late game power of mono-green even post banning. As we did last week with Pioneer Decklists To Restore Faith In Humanity, we’re back with more sick Pioneer decklists. 4. Do you have any mana issues without access to green along with Oath of Nissa or other fixing? This Top 10 cards most played represents most of the cards played in "Saheeli Cat" deck. I’d rather see Saheeli go because Felidar still can do interesting things elsewhere, but it’s also the card they screwed up on the templating so it’s the likely hit between that and being a rando uncommon, [–]Existenz81 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). Some people like playing them. Magic players are good people and will eventually stop playing degenerate shit... Huh, every oponent I've had must each be an anomaly, [–]Aextasis 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Non rotating formats always degenerate into the same pattern. 3. Give the meta time to adjust and see what needs to happen over time. Rare (27) 4Mutavault4Harbinger of the Tides4Tempest Djinn4Smuggler's Copter3Sorcerous Spyglass4Spell Pierce4Tidebinder Mage. Tron needs to go off on turn 3..... turn 2 nissa yup seems fair. Ballista is flexible for two things. Deck appeared to be weak against the UG Lumbering Falls deck, or hexproof decks as a lot of the removal is targetted. *IS SAHEELI DOMINANT? Deal Another Hand. By comparison, 10/32 are playing Nissa, Who Shakes the World + Once Upon a Time + Leyline of Abundance. There's only 4/32 decks playing Felidar Guardian. Yeah, and that one time is all it takes to make sure any deck playing it has 3 mana on turn 2 almost all of the time. Top 8. What kind of backwards idea is that? [–]CenturionRower 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (6 children). 4. [–]PocoTheTurtle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), Sorin gives lifelink not deathtouch unless im missing something, [–]Yagoua81 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]PocoTheTurtle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Oh,thought it was the war of the spark sorin. It's easy, just don't be a jerk. First off, go Blazers. [–]AncientFudge1984 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). 1. What pay offs do we have? Keep in mind this isn't the actual metagame, but the "winners metagame". Pioneer Delirium by BRG24. 1st - Bant Spirits: lucadaky. Sort by: Planeswalker (9) 1 Chandra, Awakened ... Pioneer Challenge #12233113 on 11/28/2020 . I don't necessarily expect it to be banned later today but I'd be surprised if it doesn't get banned down the road. Mono Green Devotion is getting hit for sure. I’m playing GB harden Scales and have yet to have mana fixing issues. [–]AncientFudge1984 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). Archived [March 22nd] Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists. [card](Oath of Nissa) (43 copies) [–]Res_Novae 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). I am so sad there are no rhino whip decks or dredgeless dredge decks. Red Deck Wins. Notes: There are likely many punts, lines, and misplays. All posts must be relevant to the Pioneer format. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Swiss army knives can do more than one thing, they are very flexible. Discussing why a card may be too strong for the format, or concerns to the format being inaccessible due to issues like price is fine, but try to keep things constructive. Search Results for Magic Decks from MTGO Pioneer Challenge - 10/27/2019. March 1, 2020. [card](Felidar Guardian) (36 copies) [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Making it so you cant interact with combos is what is the problem. [–]Jolraels_Centaur_OP 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children), Urza: "With these three lands, I can cast an Ulamog on turn four! ", [–]Dimir_Frost_Mage 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children). Pioneer really is the format of planeswalkers. This is interesting. The problem is the combo not the supporting cards. Burn - 2 copies (6%) Rather than casting a 10 mana spell on turn 3 I'm casting a 5 mana spell and then our turn 4 I'm casting a 10 mana spell, maybe. [–]FluffyWolf2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), TCG Decklist Link: http://bit.ly/fluffyEsperSuperfriends 2 Authority of the Consuls 2 Deafening Silence 2 Deputy of Detention 1 Disdainful Stroke 1 Dovin's Veto 1 Failure // Comply 1 Heroic Intervention 1 Knight of Autumn 2 Mystical Dispute 2 Remorseful Cleric iceiceice (7th Place) Pioneer Challenge #12052914 on 12/29/2019 Decklist … 2nd - RW Heroic: _Antoniou_. PNR 8 / 8 . Don't worry, let the format solve itself. 3rd - Kethis: Lein_ 4th - Mono-G Walker Ramp: rusty_gates. No general MTG posts. The best deck appears to be Mono green and your input is to bad a white card that kills a separate deck entirely? RB Aggro Pirates Win by Ninjew42. [–]NoxLD 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]Enral 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Journeyman351 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (4 children), [–]CenturionRower 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Pioneer MTG Decks Visit Pioneer forum ... Budget Challenge: Orzhov Aristocrats by WurmMaster777. Idk, I’m having fun with burn too, but the feeling will pass bc I LOVE living end in modern and I just don’t have as much fun playing other decks. Be excellent to each other and follow basic reddiquette. Thank you! [–]PHOthrowaway88 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]crossjenkins 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Bananadan6 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (21 children). Both are fun. Low-effort posts are subject to removal with an explanation of required changes. Yikes, that's a lot of Nissa Who Shakes the World. But it is? And like stirrings, I believe this will be fine, it's the other cards that enable degenerate and really powerful stuff. That is more aristocrats than LE style. 4 of the top 8 are Monogreen Devotion (including 1st place), and 10 of the top 32 are Monogreen Devotion. Shit look at what happened between stirrings and looting. They make Spike spend a ton of money to get it and win. it kills the scales deck instantly, so I hope thats not even close to being considered. Thanks! From Return to Ravnica Forwards. 4 Preliminaries (n=62), 2 Challenges (n=64), 1 Champ Qual (n=32). REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 2773 on r2-app-0d1711d03db61de53 at 2020-12-02 13:46:51.765288+00:00 running 31b5616 country code: NL. Gate to the Afterlife - (G) (SF) (txt) People hate on Oko and Teferi but I’m not sure the data says they are ban worthy. 9. [deck](17430) However, you'll get a much better response if you come across as someone who knows what's up. Nykthos has to go...same with either oko/teferi to hurt the cat combo. 10/29/19 [–]McWinSauce 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). Dimir Inverter: Thattaman. [–]LotusCobra 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]tallandgodless 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (13 children). There were 32 decklists. 4 Color Midrange — 495 decklists Goblins — 322 decklists Jund Sacrifice — 291 decklists Red Deck Wins — 260 decklists Gruul Aggro — 189 decklists Sultai Midramp — 162 decklists Artifacts Ramp — 111 decklists Azorius Auras — 110 decklists Get the decklists and a complete metagame overview in our Historic section ☝️ Yes they are strong cards but why must they die in pioneer for standards problems. [–]RayWencube 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Decklist with description 🙋🏽‍♂️: “Scuse me sir/madam, I don’t wanna read, how’s it work?” 🤫: “TL:DR: Turn 1 - [[Consulate Dreadnaught]] -big boat⛴, Turn 2 - [[Kroxa]] with triggers on the stack, crew the boat 🛳, then swing with 7/11 🛳, Turn 3 - [[Claim//Fame]] the Kroxa. [card](Breeding Pool) (39 copies) Even if the creatures don't cycle at least they're shitty! [–]ThisHatRightHere 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]lordofthehomeless 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children).
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